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Editor’s Note: After reading the comments, it became apparent that more than a few people were misinterpreting the point of this piece. The author has now reworded the graphic for clarity. His original intent was certainly not to make light of mass murder. It was to show the absurdity of the NRA’s position that arming the population is a better solution to gun violence than any type of gun regulation that keeps weapons of mass murder out of the hands of civilians.

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  1. Diego says:

    Very poor judgement. Cant even find the words to express how stupid this is.

    1. mike says:

      On the contrary– very funny, but in a pretty dark way.

  2. Suzanne Merritt says:

    Why would anyone post this? It’s insensitive and it HELPS NO ONE! In the wake of this tragedy, posting ridiculous comments and memes is not the answer. Put your money where your mouth is and DO something that will actually make a difference. This post is sickening.

    1. mike says:

      No, it’s pointed satire. It’s a response to the ridiculous position of some GOP elected officials.

      1. Tom says:

        Watch the Repubs & the NRA hijack gun control again by appearing to support a ‘Bump Stock’ ban.

  3. Ellen Lahr says:

    I’m disgusted. Shame on the Edge and Ben for this appalling graphic. The concert goers were the victims. Not the shooters.

    1. Ben Hillman says:

      Hi Ellen.

      Apparently the point of my graphic didn’t get across to some people and I’m sorry about that. Of course the concertgoers were the victims.

      This was a depiction of the absurdity of the standard NRA position that the solution to gun violence is to arm the entire population. Rather than have any gun regulation, they prefer to see everyone armed to the teeth so they can (in their fantasy world) fire back.

      1. Ellen Lahr says:

        Hi Ben, I appreciate this and I get your explanation. However, the message was lost on me and hundreds of others who didn’t make the initial connection. I’m sure you’ve seen the Facebook shares/riot going on about this. The original failed, the fix came too late, and all people see is an image of armed concert goers who kind of look like perps. Gut reactions are hair-trigger right now, if you will pardon the pun. Ellen

  4. Mae says:

    This is disgusting and you should be ashamed.

    1. mike says:

      Look again. The target is the NRA/GOP Rep whose response is ludicrous– not the victims.

  5. Jim Johnston says:

    Ahh the downfall of the liberal rag.

    1. Tom says:

      Also funny in a dark & satirical way!

  6. Tom says:

    What’s really disgusting is Republican hypocrisy and their lust for NRA money.

    1. Thomas Logsdon says:

      What’s really disgusting is the Democrats lust for power by disarming the law abiding citizenry and only wanting to allow the police to carry guns.

      1. mike says:

        Disarming? In your fever dream.

      2. Tom says:

        Feel my lust.

  7. Chris Thomas says:

    You’re a special kind of stupid, Ben Hillman. Edge editors obviously lacking decorum and asleep at the wheel for failing to exercise good judgment and reign this idiot in. You’re not even preaching to the choir with this entry.

    1. mike says:

      Is this that subtle? Did you not hear of the GOP Rep who said the victims were– not making this up– partly to blame? And that they should have tried to __present less of a target–??? *He* is the target of this piece– not the victims of the shooting.

      1. Chris Thomas says:

        You unfortunately fall into the Hillman class of SKOS if the original posting set well with you in view of what transpired less than a week ago. Unless you’re actually the artist making a lame attempt to justify the post, I take what I see at face value. It referenced the concert…end of story. You describe it as “pointed satire.” Really??? If you think ANYTHING connected with the recent tragedy is an appropriate target for satire then you’re confirming your reservation in the SKOS camp.

  8. Kim TenBroeck says:

    Not helpful and very disappointing especially while families are grieving the loss of lived ones and people are fighting for their lives in hospital beds. Please pull this post

  9. Tom says:

    Disturbing to see folks who consider themselves liberals calling for censorship here. The intent of the meme was clearly to point out the NRA-funded hypocrisy of Republicans like Sen. John Thune who blames the concert attendees for not ‘getting small’, whatever the heck that means. The ‘too soon to talk about gun control’ argument has been used after every massacre as an excuse by the Republicans. When is the right time to talk about it? What day, month, year?

  10. Ellen Lahr says:

    I share the rage about this post, and unfortunately the updated text doesn’t help. Removing the weapons from the graphic would send a quite different message, but I am afraid it’s too late. It’s too much of a graphic onslaught that the message is lost, ill-timed, insulting, etc. This was an awful mistake by the author and The Edge. You’d do yourself a favor and gain some respect by removing it. But, hey, free speech, website traffic, etc…..

    1. mike says:

      Pfft. This was dark, biting, satire– and aimed at the NRA defenders and the GOP lackeys.

      1. Tom says:

        Agree. Don’t blame the messenger.

  11. David L Minton says:

    Deeply offensive. Deeply deeply wrong. Seriously question the editorial judgement . The retraction/redaction/correction is weak, ineffective and a day late and dollar short. I am truly offended, this is very very disappointing. But the arrogant Berkshire Eagle Forum answer on Facebook has put me over the top….. “Berkshire Eagle Forum: Wow you really are an uneducated fool! It’s all the trump loving gun owners, that are getting butt hurt over this!” I don’t know who “moderates” that Facebook page, it appears “official”. If that is in fact the Eagle’s position, David, we have a serious problem. I am not a “trump loving gun owners”, and take deep umbrage at being accused of being an uneducated fool….. I, and many other “liberals” are waiting for Hillman’s apology for that glib. smug, patronizing, insulting answer. SHAMEFUL!!!!

    1. Ellen Lahr says:

      David are you confusing The Edge and The Eagle?

      1. David L Minton says:

        Yes, I did. But the idiot who posted a number of snarky replys on The Edge’s facebook page (as Berk Eagle Forum) seemed to stir up more than a few instant reactions. More to the point, amateur efforts at provocative political cartooning sometime have the opposite effect than that which their creators intended. I continue to be amazed at the lack of editorial judgement in running the cartoon to begin with, and more especially Hillman’s (and The Edge’s) weak response. I for one, am still waiting for Hillman’s apology for that glib. smug, patronizing, insulting answer.

    2. mike says:

      You got Hillman’s apology, though I don’t think he had the least thing to apologize for. Attacking the NRA who defend all gun ownership all the time for everyone, and the GOP Congressman who laid partial blame ***on the victims*** is the right thing to do– and that’s what this piece did (at least in it’s original form.

  12. AJ says:

    An excellent article for anyone truly interested in knowing more about the 2nd Amendment:

  13. Chris Thomas says:

    Changing text doesn’t help… pull the posting. Truth be told, I have always thought the Edge could make better use of the platform they afford Hillman. His latest cements my line of thinking. A review of comments by the majority suggests we found some libs and conservatives agree on. This illustration and comments in very poor taste. Shame on the Edge.

    1. mike says:

      Nah. Shame on the would be censors– and especially on those whose cursory glance let them to completely misinterpret what the thing actually said.

      1. Tom says:

        Exactly. Don’t think the meme is in good taste? Make your own.

  14. Rinaldo Del Gallo says:

    The original post was “Recommended Concert Attire.” I have the benefit of first seeing it the revised captions, but I think I would have caught on to the original joke. The jokes wasn’t that you should have come to a concert dressed to kill for the fun of it, but that you should come to a concert dressed to kill in order to be prepared for self-defense. Ben Hillman was clearly trying to make fun of the NRA argument that instead of having gun control, “regular folks” should be armed in case they run into an evil person with a gun.

    i don’t mean to belittle anyone, but the fact that one did not get the joke may mean that they are a little slow up the uptake (which I am sorry to say is the more credible explanation), or that the humor was not apparent enough. People don’t get jokes all the time. It does not make it offensive.

    When it comes to calling into questions one’s ethics, it is best to ask what was one’s intent. Clearly, Ben Hillman was trying to poke fun at the argument of the NRA that instead of gun control, we should have a more armed civilian population. As to Ben Hillman’s judgment, I think people that frankly missed a joke because its meaning was perhaps not immediately obvious to them are getting to judgmental. Maybe if the original cartoon explicitly mentioned the NRA, the joke would have been slightly clearer. But the bottom clearly laid out the logic that was being made fun of.

    Bottom line: The cartoon was reasonably clearly making fun of the NRA logic that instead of gun control, we need a more armed citizenry. I guess you can debate that the joke wasn’t clear enough, but I say in all respect that it was clear enough and that the haters just didn’t get the joke when maybe they should have caught. One thing is without doubt–Ben Hillman was not making light of the tragedy, but was mocking the logic that he found absurd of the NRA.

    1. mike says:

      Well said. The outrage over the cartoon is based on cluelessness.

  15. Joseph Method says:

    I wish people could muster their outrage at satire with a harsh but valid message and direct it at any of the real injustices affecting our world today. There are plenty of real “outrages” out there that most people just shrug about.

  16. Mike says:

    Spot on satire!

    1. Chris Thomas says:

      See mine of 10/6… Related to Hillman?

  17. Brian says:

    This is sick, and the defense of it is just blindly political.

    1. mike says:

      You’re not listening or even thinking. LOOK at the cartoon. SEE the cartoon. UNDERSTAND the cartoon. Unless you’re Charlton Heston,you’ll understand the only thing offensive in the room

  18. John says:

    I’m actually sorry you changed this, there was nothing misleading about your original intent, to say that it’s ridiculous that concert goers need to prepare for being shot at while at the same time saying that there are some who’s only response is to arm more people, which is also a wrongheaded solution both factually and morally. There are some who believe that the only proper response is “hopes and prayers” as a cover for their inaction on the issue of gun violence, there are those who say now is not the time to discuss gun violence, not now or ever because we are always recovering from the last massacre. Your original post may have ruffled some snowflakes but the violence of what happened is the disturbing thing, your image was protected free speech and as soon as we start telling artists how to express so there art is palatable to everyone, free speech is endangered and without the artists right to free speech , hard and important discussions of change will never happen.

  19. William says:

    Not for nothing, but what’s a SKOS?

    1. Chris Thomas says:

      Special Kind of Stupid…

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