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After the press conference, reporters followed Trump to the elevators in Trump Tower, and Trump told them: No, no one on his team had any contact with the Russians (see also here).

Source: http://www.newsweek.com/despite-denials-russians-were-contact-trump-campaign-555081


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  1. GMHeller says:

    Yet more non-news from Mr. Hillman, this time linking to fake news from Newsweek quoting fake news from CNN.
    What is the motive these sore losers have for trying to undermine last November’s free and fair election?
    Hillary’s ‘vision’ for the USA (aka Obama 2.0) was sent packing, yet Hillman and his fellow Democrat hacks in main stream media refuse to accept the will of the electorate.

    1. George Grumbach says:

      Mr. Heller has learned his leader’s favorite tactic: instead of truth, bob and weave and blame it on Hillary. So, now instead of admitting that It was false to state that “no one on my team had any contact with the Rissians”, Mr. Heller ignores the untruth and instead raises the irrelevant subject of who won the election. I nominate Mr. Heller for today’s Kelleyanne Conway obfuscation award.

  2. Tony Blair says:

    So I guess I have to ask Mr. Heller how is that different from what the Republicans did for the last 8 years? Refuse to “accept the will of the electorate” when it came to appointment of a Supreme Court Justice – oh yeah, that was Mitch’s playbook. As was a broad range of other efforts to obstruct and delay. Did it suck then, and does it suck now – sure! But if it was OK for the republicans to do it for 8 years, I guess it could be ok for the Democrats to do it for the last month without the repubs crying about it, don’t you think? Or is it not ok now? If so why is that? Because a RINO got elected we are all supposed to be happy and supportive, but when a Democrat gets elected we are supposed to dedicate ourselves to obstructionism? Double standard anyone?

    1. GMHeller says:

      Tony Blair,
      Your fulminations fail, of course, to explain the dramatic shift in power that has occurred over the course of a number of election cycles: Republicans wrested control from Democrats first of the US House, then the US Senate, and now the Presidency.
      It’s up to you whether or not you choose to comprehend what this means and what the electorate is really saying about Obama, Obamaism, Hillary Clinton, and the rest of the tired Liberal Democrat ‘playbook’.

      1. Patrick Fennell says:

        George you seem to be confusing Hillary with Donald. Remember it was and still is Hillary Clinton under an FBI investigation.

    2. Patrick Fennell says:

      Wasn’t it Hillary Clinton who said not accepting the results of the presidential election was un-American? Someone needs to send all the destructive protesters a memo.

      1. George Grumbach says:

        What does accepting election results have to do with lying by a top official to the FBI and the Vice President? The illogic of the argument is akin to the statement, “Did you walk to school or bring your lunch?” Is it now unAmerican to disapprove of lying to the FBI and the Vice President?

      2. Bobby Houston says:

        Patrick, I know you and you’re better than this.

  3. james m says:

    Trump supporters find something to cavel about at any criticism of their avatar. Donald Trump is not an anomaly. He is the grotesque visage of a democracy in entropy. Trump and his coterie of billionaires, generals, half-wits, Christian fascists, criminals, racists and deviants play the role of the Snopes clan in some of William Faulkner’s novels. The Snopeses filled the power vacuum of the decaying antebellum South and ruthlessly seized control from the atrophied, former slave-holding aristocratic elites. Flem Snopes and his extended family—which includes a venal politician, a pornographer, a thief, a killer, a pedophile, a bigamist, an arsonist, a mentally disabled man who copulates with a cow, and a relative who sells tickets to witness the bestiality—are fictional representations of the scum now elevated to the highest level of the federal government. They embody the miasma percolating around the Potomac unleashed by unfettered capitalism.

      1. Patrick Fennell says:

        You got a last name James or just a coward?

  4. George Grumbach says:

    Since when has lying to the Vice President and the FBI been acceptable? Answer: since the election. Eight fruitless Benghazi witch hunts and relentless email probes that went nowhere were ok back then, but heaven forbid that anyone should criticize the new administration for secretly consortingwith the Russians and then lying about it. In the new era, Flynn is a hero and the only sin was the leaks about his misconduct.

    1. Steve Farina says:

      Hahaha hey George,
      Didn’t Hillary lie to the FBI about turning over all her emails, except personal? Yeah she did!
      Didn’t Bill lie about what he was meeting the AG on the tarmac about – yeah, most likely he did…

      Are you really going to try to insinuate this event was anything more than political power tone setting by the “Intelligence community”? The transcript portion released is benign at best and not worthy of removal from the position. There are clearly other, deeper, things at play here than what we are being presented on the surface.

      1. George Grumbach says:

        Steve, when last I heard, lying to the FBI was a felony. Lying to the vice president may not be a crime, but to most people, it is shameful. To most people, either, and certainly both, are worthy of removal from a position of trust. Also, Hillary did not lie to the FBI. You are dealing in alternative facts in so asserting. And what does Bill have to do with this discussion? Bringing him into the picture is grasping at straws. And, yes, I am insinuating, indeed, asserting, that “this event” — lying to the FBI and the Vice President — is “more than political power tone setting by the intelligence community.” As mentioned above, it is a felony. As some of us — but not the current administration — seem to have learned from history, it is not only the crime, but the cover up. By the way, what transcripts of the intercepts of the conversations between Flynn and other Trump operatives have you been reading? I have not seen any.

      2. Patrick Fennell says:

        George then why isn’t Hillary in a gray bar hotel? She has been caught lying on numerous occasions to both congress and the FBI?

      3. Steve Farina says:

        George,
        Hillary did lie to the FBI. I brought Bill into it because it was relevant.
        http://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/how-everyone-looks-bad-because-bill-clinton-met-with-loretta-lynch/2016/07/02/a7807adc-3ff4-11e6-a66f-aa6c1883b6b1_story.html

        It was reported a while ago, but today’s NYPOST shows that Senator Schumer may not agree with you on “why” this is an issue:

        “Indeed, the most serious leaks seem to vindicate a warning that Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer made in early January after Trump criticized leaders of the spook agencies.

        “Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” Schumer told an interviewer. “So even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he’s being really dumb to do this.” ”

        And while I can’t say that I have read the transcript, there is this report on NPR:

        http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/15/515437291/intelligence-official-transcripts-of-flynns-calls-dont-show-criminal-wrongdoing

        Did Flynn’s actions warrant his resignation? Maybe, maybe not…I am quite sure there have been far more egregious things said and done by our politicians who have managed to stay in office.

  5. George Grumbach says:

    Patrick, you are also indulging in alternative facts when you say that Hillary has been caught lying to both Congress and the FBI. There has been no proof of an intentional falsehood. Reread the Comey letter. Moreover, is your argument, which is based on the false premise that Hillary lied, that two wrongs make a right? Is lying by Flynn to the FBI and the vice president on the serious issue of the US’s foreign policy with Russia to be forgiven for that reason? And, before the election, did you say that Hillary’s alleged lies were OK, or did you say, “Lock her up.”? You can’t have it both ways.

    1. Patrick Fennell says:

      George you are living in space land. Congressman Trey Gowdy did a number on Comey and Hillary for that matter. watch Youtube for facts and stop watching CNN and MSNBC.

      1. George Grumbach says:

        You ducked my questions again. Congratulations on winning today’s Kelleyanne Conway award.

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